Tuesday, April 19, 2011

Two different ways to Solve Poverty, A look at More in Comparison to Swift.

In Sir Thomas More's Utopia we are given an interesting way to solve many of the problems that have afflicted nations in one way or another for thousands of years.   Poverty, thievery, greed and corruption are just a few of the things More covers in his story.   However, More isn't the only writer that  had offered an interesting way to deal with a nations woes, especially poverty.   Several Centuries after More, Jonathan Swift also tried to tackle the effects of poverty on England in his well known Satire, The Modest Proposal.   In their works Swift and More both offer a solution that can combat this plague that affects all nations, big and small.   After comparing how each of these works addresses the same problem of poverty, we can get a better look on how people of two different times thought poverty could be solved, though each one has their own moral dilemmas involved in them.
In Utopia, poverty plays an important as the cause of much of a nations problems, though there are other things that cause the poverty in the first place.   According to the character Raphael, thievery comes about from poverty because "A man of courage is more likely to steal than to cringe"(532) and from there worse crimes like murder occur when the punishments to combat thievery far exceed the crime.   Considering that thievery leads to more poverty if the stolen items are not returned, poverty begets more poverty making the problem worse than it was before.   In order to combat poverty at the root, Raphael suggests that a thief should "make restitution to the owner" and be "sentenced to hard labor"(534) for his crime, which he based on what he learned from another nation.   This seems like a reasonable way to solve a problem brought about by poverty.  
However, it's not until later in the story that a more concrete way to solve poverty is truly given, and that solution is itself.   Raphael first deals with the problems caused by poverty as he gives his explanations to the Cardinal.   Once he begins telling the story of the Utopians is when he gives a truly concrete solution, which at first sounds like it would be an ideal society.  All the land and possessions of the country belong to everyone living inside, no poverty because everyone can easily acquire the most basic things they need to live and have their daily lives mapped out for them by their leaders.  The punishments for breaking the few laws Raphael says they have are either solved with some form of slavery, or death if they are so severe as to concern the society as a whole.
On the other hand, in Swift's "A Modest Proposal", he feels the best way to deal with poverty is to make sure the poor have an easy way to make money.   His suggestion, gruesome as it may be, is to turn babies into the new hit source of food for England.   His reasoning behind this is that doing so would "lessen the number of papists", give "tenants something valuable of their own", children would only need to be raised for 1 year, and preventing husbands from committing domestic violence.   All for the loss of the lives of an uncountable number of children, the problems of parenthood and society would all be solved, doesn't it sound great?  While Swift's proposal might sound too good to be true for the rich, it is a satire and should always be remembered as such.
So which way is the best way to deal with poverty in the world?   Would making everything everyones to use and forcing them to follow the plans of their leader or suffer some form of punishment be best?  Poverty would definitely be solved , by removing the need for currency.   Of course the other option would be to sell children as a delicacy which makes it a very hard choice.    Hopefully sometime in the future the governments of the world will pick one way or the other and make life better for everyone.


Swif's Modest Proposal can be found here and is where I got my information from, since I didn't have my previous copy of Norton that contained it on hand.
http://art-bin.com/art/omodest.html

4 comments:

  1. The problem with More's communal meathod of ending poverty is that he doesn't take into account that people (nomatter how idealisit and altruistic) have a natural instinct to look out for their own needs first. What happens if there is a famine that is outside of anyone's control? Will some Utopians voluntarily stand by and starve for the "good of the community"?

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  2. Taking Joanna's comment a step more generalized, I think More is leading us to question whether or not it is right to let the individual suffer for the good of the whole community. It is the amputation paradox - is it okay to destroy your left arm if it is killing the rest of your body? Will you function just as well without it? Similarly - will society continue to function without those who object to it standing present, however small the minority? When you look at our own society, I think a lot of what happens occurs as a reaction to opposition - by eliminating opposition, are we creating a utopia? I don't think so.

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  3. It's interesting, interpreting these two texts (which, good job connecting them, this is pretty fascinating stuff) in light of the rampant communism/genocide of the early 20th century. I'd love to see some scholar explore these issues in more depth; unfortunately, I only have between 50 and 75 words.

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  4. I thought it was great how you were able to write your post on the different laws and rules that governed the Utopian society. I had read Swift's A Modest Proposal before and thought it interesting how you were able to relate the two works, as I think it's important to look at various social critiques.

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